Saturday, March 19, 2005

What - Liberals for Terri?

The purpose of Liberals For Terri is to draw from across the political spectrum - liberals, conservatives, progressives, left-wing radicals and right-wing curmudgeons - to agree on the following point:

There are other reasons besides the "right-to-life" platform to remove Michael Schiavo as Terri's guardian, and restore Terri's right to choose.


What if Terri was Set Up?

Ask yourself: What if your spouse had abused you, injured you by strangulation or head trauma, then driven you to the hospital and demanded "your" right to die? What if the only evidence presented to the court that you "wanted to die" was hearsay testimony from the same spouse that materialized only after they got your $1.5+ million settlement? What if they spent $500,000 of that settlement money not on you, but on a prominent euthanasia attorney they hired specifically to lobby for "your" right to "die"? What if a pittance was spent on your rehabilitation, despite signs that you might improve, and the remainder spent on living expenses with their new girl- or boyfriend?

That would be not only wrong but suspicious; what if - despite eyewitness and video evidence that you communicated regularly (though not very well given that any rehabilitation or therapy had been denied you) - your spouse's lawyer and his doctors all insisted that you had persistent vegetative state (PVS)?

That alone would be suspicious enough to trigger alarm bells. But what if it was common knowledge around the hospice that you were not in PVS, but the judge had instituted gag orders forbidding the nurses from saying anything about it, then ordered that no cameras or recording devices be allowed near you (with no justification or explanation) so that any claims of your attempts to communicate your will to live would degenerate into "he said, she said" absurdity? What if your spouse and his lawyer had arranged that you be denied daylight, medical care and basic hygiene for no apparent reason? What if the world ignored you and your plight thinking they were hearing the real story in the news, and the original diagnosis was supported by more than a CT scan (which doesn't diagnose PVS) and a cursory examination (which doesn't diagnose PVS either)? What if over 30 neurologists - not right-to-life ideologues, but normal doctors at the top of their professional careers - disagreed with your "diagnosis" but were overruled by the "impartial" doctor appointed by the court?

And what if the judge insisted that, since they had already proven you had PVS, he would refuse to consider any other information, even if it showed the initial findings were bogus? What if the appeals courts supported his decision every time, not because the old "facts" were shown to be valid, but because the judge had followed correct "procedure" in establishing those facts [scroll to the bottom] so there was no issue of law for them to address?

What if your parents had tried to approach the judge time & time again as the appeals court instructed with the evidence in hand and yet the judge simply refused to listen, and the appeals court refused to compel the judge to do anything about it, or look at the videotapes, since they were inadmissible as evidence?

And what if these attempts did nothing but get your parents in trouble with the court, almost losing their "right" to visit you in the court-appointed hospice run by the euthanasia lobby on whose board your spouse's lawyer used to sit (and who had arranged "free medical care" so your spouse didn't have to spend a dime)?

And then, after everything that had happened, what if your spouse went on television and tacitly admitted that everything he had told the court about your supposed wish to "die" was bogus?

Think this is all made up? Why don't you ask somebody.

There are some of us who used to believe the Terri Schiavo case was just a bunch of hot air. "Let the woman be with God. Let the woman die in peace." Then come to find out she's been trying to communicate with her parents, no competent diagnosis has ever been performed, and the court, husband, the lawyer, doctor & the hospice are working together as a team. That team has imposed cruel and inhumane treatment by judicial fiat, and now intends to impose the husband's discredited hearsay testimony as a death sentence on this woman despite her desperate attempts to speak out against it.

That's what's at stake here. The euthanasia hoopla is a sideshow. This isn't about euthanasia or letting Terri "die with dignity": She can swallow food but the husband won't let her. She can speak but her husband won't let anyone see her do it. Eyewitness reports are dismissed. Competent doctors are stonewalled. Her settlement money is spent on legal fees supporting her "right" to death by dehydration. And, most importantly, the husband may have caused her current condition. So let me ask you: would you want that man making your life-and-death decisions? Would you still want him as a spouse?

Apparently the feeling is mutual. He has moved on to a new "common-law wife" and two new kids. Her care is being provided free of charge by a terminal-patient hospice run by his lawyer's cronies at no expense to her husband or her vanishing estate. The only condition is that he continue to support the "decision" to kill her - something he apparently has no problem doing.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a case for CSI Tampa, not euthanasia court? If they manage to kill Terri Schiavo, Franz Kafka is reportedly coming back from the grave to write another book.

The Terri Schiavo question is not about the Right To Life or the Right To Death with Dignity. It is really about the Right To Indemnification from acts of Mortal Treachery, Medical and Legal Fraud. It is also about the Right To Have Our Mortal Wishes Respected.

We can argue the larger point all day long, but we can't let those that engage in incriminating and fraudulent behavor make life-or-death decicisions - whichever way they may go - on behalf of someone who may have been set up from the beginning. The truth is in there somewhere, and it's time to take a long, hard look at it before it's too late.


The Real Issue:  Terri's Right to Indemnification from Willful Cruelty, Medical Fraud and Legal Fraud

The champions of different sides in the Right To Die debate have clearly been fighting each other. The larger debate is certainly important for the nation as a whole but is not mandatory for Terri's cause. It has become clearer than ever that the real issues in the Terri Schiavo case - the skeletons in the closet that cast suspicion on the entire "right to die" posse - are Michael Schiavo's ulterior motives, alleged criminal behavior, selective medical diagnosis and legal fraud by those deciding and implementing Terri's fate.

This story continues to be sidestepped by our friends in the political and media establishments. (UPDATE: Thank God Larry King gets it.) On TV last night, the renowned euthanasia attorney and author George Felos - who is also Michael's ("Terri's") attorney - gave a stirring indictment of our federal government and the power they seek to usurp from the states. He makes excellent points - yet he didn't answer the basic question directed toward his client, still not answered to anyone's satisfaction: How did Terri Schiavo end up in the hospital in the first place?

Even Forensic Pathologist Michael Baden publicly stated that he believes that her original injuries were consistent with strangulation. (Hat tip: BlogsForTerri.)

And what about George Felos's own whopping conflict of interest in the Terri Schiavo death equation?

To be fair Felos is an attorney for the euthanasia lobby, not a criminal defense attorney. But it might be time to change careers. To give you a hint of where this is going, consider the following poll conducted on AOL News Thursday:

Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate?
Her husband - 58%
Her parents - 35%
Federal courts - 4%
Florida courts - 2%

So the husband gets the vote. But what would the results have been had they asked the following questions instead:

1.   Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate if she had complained of her husband's physical and mental abuse on numerous occasions prior to her brain injury?

2.   Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate if there is evidence that Michael Schiavo was abusive or showed pathological behavior toward other women?

3.   Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate if there is reason to suspect her brain injuries were precipitated by domestic violence?

4.   Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate if Terri had expressed a wish to divorce her husband shortly before the injury but was afraid to for fear her husband would react violently?

5.   Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate if the husband's comments on the record show that his earlier claims to the court about Terri wanting to "die" were misleading and likely to be false?

I predict the winner would shift from "Her husband" to "Her parents".


The Purpose of Liberals For Terri

That's what this blog is about. It's about adding the conditional clause, "...assuming Michael Schiavo didn't put her in the hospital to begin with" to every issue we discuss in the abstract. It's about infusing the more theoretical "life vs. death" arguments with the real-world emerging details of Michael Schiavo, bringing the discussion down to where it belongs: the basics of loyalty and trust.

Surely that's something we can all appreciate. Those of us who love Sean Hannity can agree with those of us who love Al Franken on that much, can't we? (And with those of us who can't stand either one?) :) Hopefully most of us could also agree on the following:

If the only evidence to support withholding food and water is hearsay testimony offered by the spouse (which, in Terri's case, was the alleged offhand comment "I wouldn't want to live like that"), then - assuming it is even possible to establish the victim's precise intentions from that testimony (which usually it isn't) - the motives and objectivity of the spouse must count for everything. If there is any valid reason to suspect the spouse's motives or behavior - before, during or after the time of injury - it ought to extinguish all credibility given to that hearsay testimony. Any life or death decisions based on that hearsay testimony ought to be removed from the control of the spouse or their representatives and returned to the parents or other trusted blood relatives. The onus should be on the spouse to prove to the court (and to the parents) that their suspicious behavior has a rational and exculpatory explanation. They should also have to prove to the court that they have extinguished all relevant conflicts of interest. That burden of proof should extend to their legal representatives as well. If conflicts of interest are found subsequently to have existed prior to the petition for guardianship and not properly disclosed, criminal charges ought to be pressed against the spouse (and any representatives who were involved).
And so on.



Coalition of the Willful

The husband and his lawyer have befriended doctors willing to give dubious testimony and the presiding judge who blocks any competing testimony from reputable doctors (not only of Terri's condition but of the conditions surrounding her "accident"). Like CBS during the Memogate controversy, they are all indignant that anyone would second-guess their good judgment. They point to the endless appeals and rulings that have done nothing but support their case (unlike CBS during the Memogate controversy).

Yet these rulings have given false comfort to all of us because to date they have addressed only procedural questions, not evidentiary ones. That means whatever evidence the judge decided was "sufficient" originally has remained the basis of all findings of "fact" to date, and nothing anyone else reports can change the outcome. And since the judge has followed "procedure" throughout, there's nothing to appeal.

Meanwhile the original evidence on which the Terri Schiavo evaluation is based did not include the most basic medical diagnostic procedures, nor was it obtained honestly. So far the judge has not had to answer for that. I'll get to that soon on this blog. In the meantime however, chew on this comment and imagine if it could possibly, just maybe, be true.

If any of this is true, then how could it have been missed for the last fifteen years? Good question. It seems the information has been available but no one in Big Media has taken an interest in it.


Time's Running Out: It's Time to Unite, Not Fight

Those with the loudest voices and the deepest pockets are those representing a political platform. Euthanasia advocates appear to be glad that the "facts" seem to support the decision they favor and they don't question them at all; those who fight euthanasia on principle don't examine the specific reasons why even a euthanasia advocate might want to forego this particular case. Incriminating specifics are ignored in favor of more general arguments with higher stakes. The machinery of both sides is structured to fight the larger battle their way, to either vanquish the other side or hold them at bay.

In the meantime, poor Terri Schiavo is trying to tell her caregivers she doesn't want to die, but Michael won't let anyone record her voice, so the "debate" remains deadlocked in "he said, she said" absurdity. Each side of the Bigger Issue digs their heels in and takes up the available political oxygen, leaving Terri Schiavo to suffocate.

I'll say it again: I have friends on both sides of the right-to-die issue. But we all agree that the Terri Schiavo case isn't the right test case. Done wrong, it will harm the agenda of both sides - for reasons I'll blog on later - but basically it boils down to the obvious: when we make a grievous error in basic judgment, whatever form it takes (whether position or tactics), we all lose credibility.

More on that later. Visit the links included on this post. Read them. For those intrepid progressives who want to bone up on the topic: Some of the links you will encounter are websites with names like "World Net Daily" or "National Review Online". Just grit your teeth, read, and ignore the pro-Bush banner ads (or the lack of anti-Bush ads) & off-topic comments and you'll be okay I promise. :-)

Some other links worth reading are here, here, here (read the comments!) and here (& comments).


A Final Word: Comment Policy

For now comments are open to all posters. But also be aware that any comments which (1) take for granted the very facts now in dispute, such as Terri being a "vegetable" (e.g. "Right - because there's soooo much dignity in living as a vegetable"), (2) don't take into account conflicts of interest, Michael Schiavo's incriminating behavior or the judge's unwillingness to re-evaluate Terri's medical diagnosis, or (3) show you clearly haven't read or understood any of the content provided in the links, can be nixed at will. (So save a local copy if you want to keep them.)

On the other hand, if you have evidence supporting a medical decision not to perform an MRI or PET scan, evidence supporting a judicial decision not to order one, evidence falsifying the claim that Terri is attempting to communicate, or exculpatory evidence for Michael Schiavo, George Felos, the doctors or the judge -- then go ahead & provide links. But it had better be new stuff, not the stuff we've already seen & heard. Otherwise...

Otherwise, comments are intended those of us who are not necessarily right-wing ideologues but still see a problem with the way Terri is being handled.

Thanks
RD

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6:45 PM  
Blogger Crystal said...

Thank YOU Thank YOU! Loud cheers and kudos for you for seeing beyond the McStory shoved down everyone's throats for years. You totally rock...Nice job...

9:43 PM  
Blogger Der Tommissar said...

Rock. On.

10:27 PM  
Blogger trejrco said...

... proof that there is some sanity & reason on the left side of the aisle! ... and I love your tagline : "A place where we can all appreciate the dirtbag that is Michael Schiavo and the death troika of George Felos, Dr. Cranford and Judge Greer"


/TJ
... NIF
... The Wide Awakes

7:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RD,
I'm so glad I found you here (through Crystal)!

I'll be sending some people over ASAP, and if you're not on the BlogsForTerri blogroll already (I haven't checked yet) you have GOT to be on it! Your site is one that people DEFINITELY need to see! Too many liberals for Terri are feeling alone in this fight; it's great that you put up a blog where people wouldn't feel vilified by their usual ideological allies.

THANK YOU!

7:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RD, you're not going to BELIEVE this! Lesbiencestmoi, who I sent you to a couple days ago for a liberal blogger for Terri, just got a mention on Hugh Hewitt's radio show and he's LINKING her on his site! You guys are gonna be famous! :-D I just sent her a note with a link to this site and asked her to put it on her blogroll so other liberals could find all of you guys.

Are you going to put up a blogroll? I found another liberal for Terri last night -- http://snunes.blogspot.com/ that you should check out.

Finally, Richard (from BlogsForTerri) just told me he put you up on the B4T blogroll!

THANKS again!

8:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shalom ~ A "Jew for Terri," here. :) This is a human rights issue! I am so glad to see L4T blog up and running, and to provide your unique perspective.

8:07 PM  
Blogger RD said...

Thanks again Beth (& Richard indirectly!) for the baton - you too Crystal! And LCM... chere...

Mme LesbienCestMoi once again - glad we hooked up ;). Am familiar w/Hugh Hewitt's name but confess I haven't been following his site (except I did hear about the story of the LA Times getting scammed by a North Korean intelligence agent). Funny. I'll have to go visit.

At this point I want put plug an unsung hero:

Michelle Malkin - She Who Thinks Outside The Box - has put up some very thoughtful and influential posts on Terri's plight. And I need to thank her especially as she linked to my site the other day! Thank you!!! Sent Michelle a tip mail on Michael's CNN/ABC 1-2 punch, and I hope someone in Big Media may have gotten the hint & started chewing on it. She's my only hope! (Or is there another... ;)

Michelle: A big apology from me to you - I didn't want anyone running in fear when they hit my site the 1st day, saw your name at the top of the blogroll, and (quite mistakenly) thought the worst! So your name hasn't been posted yet. Rest assured it will be. Since we still live in a segregated world, operating in the blogosphere as you do is just one more excuse to vilify you. (Whatever happened to "pick & choose"? In this day & age everyone needa a bias filter.)

A real blogroll to follow as well.

10:16 AM  
Blogger Maggie said...

As I have previously stated in comments, you absolutely rock with your clear headed analysis.

I have been investigating this situation for the past month or more and I must admit I do not like what I have been reading.

Whilst I have no objection to the withholding of unnecessary and futile treatment, which is of course the Catholic position, what is happening to Terri does not come under the same category.

It is a dangerous precedent to go down this track. Like you I have looked closely at the motivations of the husband. You ask all the right questions.

I get steamed up when I see people making comments like "she's a vegetable, let her die". There is something sinister about the way that the comments are worded.

To be honest you would probably not like much of my own analysis on this issue since I have a wider agenda than your own. The reason I say that is I have also been taking a Scriptural approach to the matter.

Either way, it comes back to the motives of the husband. I might not be a doctor or a lawyer, or even a rocket science, but I am not satisfied at the way hearsay evidence from obviously biased people was accepted over and above that of Terri's friend.

Also, I keep hearing different stories about when "that remark about not wanting to live" actually took place. I thought that the original evidence said that it happened when her grandmother was dying, then on TV it shifted to being an uncle, and there have been further inconsistencies that have been picked up.

Keep up the good work and know that whatever we believe in other ways we are united when it comes to the denial of human rights. You will always have my best wishes

Maggie the conservative

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an ultra conservative I probably disagree with just about everything you guys stand for...except this. God bless you for standing up for Terri and seeing this issue beyond politics. When one actually takes the time to look a litte deeper than the misrepresentation of ABC polling questions and the "McStory," as a previous poster so succinctly put it, you find that there are some things that aren't right at all about this case, no matter what your persuasion. Whether Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, atheist or devout, this affects us all. Thank you for speaking out.

9:01 PM  
Blogger Ryan Welton said...

Good evening. My name is Ryan Welton, and I am a proud liberal from Texas. It's lonely down here sometimes. :-) However, it's even been lonelier since I established my conviction, like you have, that in the case of Terri Schiavo, we should side with life in light of a cacophony of evidence.

Again, I am a liberal. I am pro-choice, although I admit to morality conflict on the issue. Regardless, I'm as left-wing as Jerry Brown and Howard Dean 80-90 percent of the time.

Here is MY argument in defense of life for Terri. Read here. And, thank you for the courage of YOUR convictions. It's tough to stand in the minority, particularly when it flies in the face of what your party and ideology typically stand for.

However, when it's life and death and ethics versus legalism and political posturing, it's important. Kudos!

Ryan

5:01 PM  
Blogger Maggie said...

Ryan,

how do you like being in the company of conservatives and the ultra right wing? It must feel very strange to find yourself on the same side of the fence.

I am not afraid to say that I have a pro-life agenda, although I am not a member of Right to Life.

If you think that you are lonely, well brother, I am lonelier because I am a conservative Catholic Australian who is sticking her nose into this business.

This case gives all of us an opportunity to look at all of the issues surrounding life and death, and in this particular instance when is it appropriate to accept that a person has claimed to not want to be hooked up onto life support.

It is the fact that we have so much in the way of medical interventions that we can no longer see life and death in the simplest of terms. My father suffered a stroke and was minimally concious before his death. Like Terri he had dysphasia, yet he could communicate his wants. He was given therapy and there was no way that he was going to be allowed to return home before his death. My mother could not have looked after my dad because of her own undiagnosed condition of Parkinson's Disease.

These are conditions that we all have to deal with when it comes to our loved ones. We all try to make the right choices and we all need to be careful in our we consider those choices.

Where do I stand? Well obviously I believe in erring on the side of life. I believe that any diagnosis of a person being brain dead must be done in an ethical manner. I accept that there is a time when the plug must be pulled because the patient has no chance of survival. That is reality.

To this I will add that the Texas legislation on this very issue is the most well thought out legislation because it provides for some safeguards against a poor diagnosis. Yes I know about Sun Hudson and from what I have read the child had a congenital disease from which he was dying and any further treatment would have been futile. Under such circumstances it is entirely ethical to come to the decision not to go any further with treatment.

Therefore my point of view on the issue is one that is also tied up with ethics. When is it not ethical to claim that a person is PVS and all medical treatment be withdrawn? Well from what I have read about Terri's case, this is one where it is very unethical to withdraw her sustenance that has been given through a feeding tube.

It is also unethical that the guardian, who in this case is a philandering husband who might have caused her harm in the first place, has been allowed to make so many appalling and shocking decisions about her treatment. It is unethical that he has been allowed to throw his weight around so that people are afraid to cross him.

It is not just the medical ethics, but also the legal ethics that continue to be faulty. How can it be ethical for a judge to accept campaign donations to the maximum allowable from an attorney who is fighting such a case as this one. It is almost as if the campaign donation is in fact a bribe to get the right decision for the attorney. The decisions of George Greer really do smack of corruption.

On top of this, there is the ethics of the Florida guardianship laws. In this particular court and case the guardianship laws have been flagrantly disregarded. Unfortunately this is a problem that is being felt by others who have been fighting the same guardianship system, not just in Florida but in other areas of the USA. Once the court appoints a guardian he or she has full control over the ward and no one else can either intervene or challenge the decisions that are being made. In this particular case the guardian has been flouting the laws because he has not been filing an annual return, and this has been allowed by the probate judge. This is another reason to suspect collusion in this case.

So liberals and conservatives let us all work together to ensure that this case unravels to the point that Michael Schiavo ends up being taken into custody for the attempted murder of his wife, as well as the abuse that she has continued to endure over a period of 15 years.

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This should not be a Right v Left argument. This is not a Pro Life argument. This is a Humanity argument. I am a Democrat who is on the left to moderate side of the spectrum.

I think this case can be related to the Holocaust as inncoent people were starved to death in concentration camps no less than 100 years ago. How is it that a child molester who murders innocent children can die via leathal injection, however we must suffocate a defensless person is BEYOND me.

I honestly can not say that I know what is best for Terri, or if she wanted to not be kept alive via artificial means, or if her family should keep her alive. That is not why I logged onto this site. I logged on to ask why are we starving someone to death in 2005? Its inhumane and cruel/unusual punishment for the worst criminals.. but why is it not for Terri?

9:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberals for Terri...Yesssss FINALLY I find a respite from the storm in my own party.

As a liberal Democrat, I am thunderstruck by some in my party, and countless others, who virtually cheer for Terri to die. What in the world has happened to us?

Terri's plight, for me, is a human rights issue. I am pro choice in terms of voting record, but I'm pro life in terms of personal decisions.

I'm a disabled person with other disabled persons in my immediate family. I see LIFE's spark in Terri, I see hope when I look at her videos. I see LOVE in her parent's desperation to save her.

When did we start disregarding Love, compassion, and basic human rights??

There's just so much more I could say here, but suffice it to say: I am elated to see other liberals who care about human life and justice. I'm equally proud to be in here along side my fellow Americans of other parties...or no political party, religious or not.

What happens to Ms Schiavo affects us all....somewhere down the line.

Thank you for hosting this blog and letting me say my piece.
Brightest Blessings, Kristine

10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting this! I hope it gets spread around the internet/world asap. I have been infuriated for so long how the controlled media publishes bullshit, siding with just about whatever Michael Schiavo spouts out to be "the truth". There is indeed, piles of recorded evidence, forensic examiners and doctors alike, police records to prove against many of his alleged statements. I clearly see many motives for his push to murder Terri. So much proves to show Terri may very well have been a battered wife, and this whole escapade... a 15-year-old attempted murder/cover-up. You've listed all the "reasonable doubt" for others to broaden their minds to, so I won't need to repeat them here. Thank you. I was beginning to lose hope in human-kind.

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